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Hey guys,

Read my take on PVP fixes and lets discuss it further, I've missed a lot of stuff for sure!

How to fix PVP in The Division


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No worries, they listen to our feedback 🤣 


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Since devs are not using calculators, we have to do the math for them.
The biggest offense they committing is Contractor Glove’s and Fos Prayer’s, both have multiplicative damage, that is nowhere else to be found. That approach limits build diversity.

Current builds

Police M4 - 88% AWD + 40% AR DMG - Base WD 41,4k - 150% CD + 100% HSD

No Contractor Glove's or Fox Prayer's used here, but maxed Providence gloves (CD+HSD)

  • 52k PVP damage
  • 182k headshot crit
  • 104k headshot
  • 130k bodyshot crit
  • 52k bodyshot
  • 850 RPM

If we swap the gloves, we lose let’s headshot damage 10% from gloves and 10% from Providence 1pcs bonus, so 20% in total, additive damage.
We get 8% multiplicative damage in return, so our stats looks like this:

Police M4 - 88% AWD + 40% AR DMG - Base WD 41,4k - 150% CD + 80% HSD + 8% Armor DMG

  • 52k PVP damage
  • 183k headshot crit (+1k)
  • 101k headshot (-3k)
  • 140k bodyshot crit (+10k)
  • 56k bodyshot (+4k)
  • 850 RPM

Didn’t expect that, but these gloves reward body shots greatly, so aiming heads is not worth it, in some sense. Anyway, 8% multiplicative damage is worth around 20% additive damage if you aim for head, otherwise it’s best in slot

What if Contractors glove's were 5%

Police M4 - 88% AWD + 40% AR DMG - Base WD 41,4k - 150% CD + 80% HSD + 5% Armor DMG

  • 52k PVP damage
  • 178k headshot crit (-4k)
  • 96k headshot (-8k)
  • 136k bodyshot crit (+6k)
  • 55k bodyshot (+3k)
  • 850 RPM

That looks much more balanced compared to Providence gloves. If you aim for heads with Providence gloves, you are rewarded with more damage and body shots are not that much greater. And finally gloves slot has much more room for other items.


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I like this very much and some impressive work for the calculator. I am not sure if I can post a  of another thread by a user that I read which I find it very interesting as well. Let me know if not I will remove the link! 

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Lol can't link it got removed...


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Posted by: @iazzac

Lol can't link it got removed...

Yea, you can link when you get 20 posts.

I will post a huge wall of text with all weapons rebooted for PVP later this week, still need to finish rebalancing pistols and shotguns are not even in the calc yet, zzz.


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damnn 20 posts a little too many!! Lol. 


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Posted by: @iazzac

damnn 20 posts a little too many!! Lol. 

Ok, i lowered the requirement to 10  😜 its just antibot spam measures 😉


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Cool! but they will not read good suggestions let alone maths even if it's right in front of them. Like I really read a few good suggestions but I see UBisoft staff response only on weird suggestion instead.


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Cool! but they will not read good suggestions let alone maths even if it's right in front of them. Like I really read a few good suggestions but I see UBisoft staff response only on weird suggestion instead.

 

I think they are still reading and forwarding worthy topics and they just have to do a good PR, so they just pop a response to some worthless topic about some irrelevant stuff.

I guess, you were talking about this topic? https://forums.ubisoft.com/showthread.php/2219581-PvP-and-PvE-balance-suggestions

Going dark, peace out


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I see their PR is a little nightmare lol. Yes sir that is 1 of the decent thread worthy to look at too imho!


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